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Post by gbeardmore on Nov 24, 2004 10:28:23 GMT -5
On long passages it would be nice to be able to sit at the wheel instead of standing or steering with my feet from the thingypit. I'd be very interested in seeing photos and getting ideas from anyone that has installed a helm seat.
I can be reached at: gbeardmore@new.rr.com
Thanks folks!
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Post by Harris on Nov 27, 2004 5:26:46 GMT -5
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Post by PeterO on Sept 11, 2005 13:53:42 GMT -5
Why not a tiller?? I'm researching my next boat and have settled on a shallow draft 34'-36' moderately heavy displacement sloop. The problem is I HATE wheels, a d**ned yuppie invention!!! Haven't seen a Pearson 35 listed without a wheel. Do they exist?? If not, is it reasonably possible to convert a wheeled boat to a tiller?? Some boats are set up to just put on a tiller head and you are off. Others like the Tartan 37 have the rudder stock coming up in the lazarette and would be too costly in safety, lost storage and hassle to convert.
I'm out here in the middle of the pacific so can't go down to my local marina and find a P35 to inspect. A listing has just turned up in Honolulu so wanted to get some ideas before I flew over to have a look.
Sorry to post this here but didn't see a way to post a new topic on the mesage board.
Aloha
Peter O.
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Post by Tom Nancy Bennett on Oct 1, 2005 9:13:57 GMT -5
10-1-05 My P35 #251 had a helmseat when I bought it in 1986. It is just a pedistal stand with a removable seat fitting. The most interesting feature is that a previous owner had made a small table with a fitting to go over the pedistal, therefore I have a thingypit table and have served as many as 15 guests in this wonderful thingypit!!!
Living aboard and cruising for 5 years I have met many new friends. 2NICE41, Tom
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Post by paul9422 on Oct 5, 2005 11:22:23 GMT -5
I have a recently purchased P35 with a helmseat, which is pretty comfortable when an additional floatation cushion is placed on top, which permits a higher view over the bow. It's made up of two cross-bars which fit into corresponding hardware pieces that are on starboard and port sail locker walls. The cross-bars go through and support a fiberglass form, on top of which goes a fiberglass unit with an attached cushion. If you're interested I can take a picture of it and send it.
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Post by John Martin on Oct 12, 2005 11:55:57 GMT -5
To both Tom and Paul. I would love to see pictures of your seats. I'm just about to make a teak one. Tom,I've always been concerned that a pedestal seat would not take the force if someone were sitting on it while heeling. Do you use it while sailing or just motoring. Thansk. John
Maybe you folks could send pics to harris and he could post them in the variations section.
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Post by delilahbearprodigynet on Oct 15, 2005 18:45:01 GMT -5
thx to john martin, will try to get some photos of the helm seat (which is used only while motoring and the auto-helm is off).
When sailing, Nancy is on one side and I on the other and we just say "ready about... hard alee". The windward person spins the wheel to the opposite tack and the offwind person releases the clew. On the opposite side the sheet is pulled in and trimed for the next course.
Don't ask how many times we have been "just crusing" and have left other boats watching us leisurely go toward the horizon!
Nuff-a-that.
We really need help with voids which we discovered in the keel.
We are in Florida and over the past 20 years have only used the centerboard (hanging about a foot below the keel) as a "depth-sounder" when in the Bahamas.
For the last several years the centerboard was strapped in the up position. During our current haulout we were going to through-bolt it all the way thru the keel.
We find about 1/4" of fibreglas, then a large void with fresh water.
Please help if you know anything about these keel voids, should they be filled and if so what material is recommended.
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Post by Katie on Oct 24, 2005 12:11:13 GMT -5
I have to admit, I was quite confused by this thread until I looked at the pictures linked in the third or so post. My 1972's wheel is at the aft end of the thingypit so one can stand while helming or sit on that aft bench--so you can see why I was wondering why this bench wasn't a sufficient seating option. Looking at those pictures, it seems as if this isn't the standard placement for the wheel. The pictures also seem to indicate the traveler at the far aft end of the thingypit, which is where mine is also. With the location of my helm station, this means the traveler is right behind my head. The previous owner had considered moving the traveler forward to the middle of the thingypit, but his wife would have none of it--I'm glad! The S2 7.9 has the traveler mid-thingypit, and, while it's perfect for racing as the helmsman often runs the main, it's not the greatest for having friends aboard. I'm not sure what effect moving the P35 traveler would have, as it's such a long boom. I saw the pictures of Rebelette with the traveler relocated, but don't know how/if it would affect the sail shape, etc. Anyone have any ideas? I like the traveler where it is, even though I have to be very conscious of it.
I do like my helm station at the aft end of the thingypit, and I think if I propsed moving it forward my husband would have a stroke...but I'm curious how other people feel about having their helm so far forward in the thingypit. Perhaps it's just something different to get used to and there isn't a particular advantage either way.
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Post by tseibert on Nov 14, 2005 21:11:05 GMT -5
Another resource you may want to check for mods or ideas like the helm seats is looking at P35's for sale on the web. There's a few helmseat ideas if you search for digital pics of P35's for sale on the web visiting yachtworld.com or equiv. I noted some interesting Mods
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Post by Greg on Mar 14, 2006 7:22:02 GMT -5
If your are still interested in a teak helm seat I have one with brackets for temp. mounting I no longer use.
I'll send pictures if you are interested.
Greg
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Post by John M on May 15, 2006 6:22:50 GMT -5
Hi Greg,
Can u share a pic. I'm interested
jmx5@starpower.net
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Post by Mike on Nov 6, 2006 9:01:44 GMT -5
If there are pictures of helm seats, I would like to get some, I am a new user and hope I am doing this right.
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Post by Harris on Nov 8, 2006 19:43:29 GMT -5
Well I have about 6 different versions (pictures) of helm seats that I have collected over the years. Some are really good. Just need to take the time to post them.
Harris
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Post by mgrant on Nov 9, 2006 10:57:20 GMT -5
I hope to see these, if you have them electronically, you can send them to me via email, mgrant@tkinet.com. thanks.
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Post by John Bryant on Feb 21, 2008 18:20:26 GMT -5
RE; HELM SEAT
I have done nine round trips to the Bahamas from Boston down the ICW, so sitting becomes more attractive. I made an extra sized fender board, about eight feet long, 2" x 8". I hang it from 2 square holes (stay with me here). I use two tapered square plugs that fit into the sockets for the winch handles on sheet winches. It's not too comfortable and a bit tippy, but I am high enough to see over the stuff on the cabin top, and it certainly is better than standing all day.
John Bryant on Kittiwake, #368
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